i need some input from you guys...i am leading a worship team going into prison into a couple weeks...have been privileged to do so many times before...this time there is someone who wants to be on the worship team and is talented to do so...he plays drums...as a matter of fact he has played on a worship team with me in the past; however since then he has started living with a woman...i find it hard to put him in front of God's people with known sin in his life...don't get me wrong...i know i'm not perfect, but i don't knowingly live my life contrary to God's Word...i've spoken directly with the young man and he understands my reason...his dad understands...but there is one who questions keeping him from playing...he feels it will benefit the young man to play...i only feel it says i agree with his living situation...i feel his actions  say to God 'i don't care what Your Word says, this is what i want to do...i have looked at the scriptures and all i am seeing supports my decision...i would welcome comments contrary to my opinion or supporting...

be blessed,

rusty 

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Comment by Stevo on May 8, 2012 at 12:47am

The litmus test is whether or not the person who is in somewhat of a leadership role can bring reproach to the name and cause of Christ. It would be fine for him to practice with you or come around an jam, but I'm not sure I would put him in front of people. Someone could say to themselves, "wait, I grew up being taught that living with someone like that is wrong and now here he is leading music." The reaction could be, "well, I guess it's ok for me to do the same" or "what a hypocrite, I'll never become a believer if even the leaders can't stick to the plan." 

The person who thinks he shouldn't be barred from playing should realize that it's not just about the drummer and what it could do for him. It's about the damage his poor witness could cause to others.

Comment by David D Waggoner on May 10, 2012 at 10:40am

I would DEFINATELY not put this person on a ministry team of any kind. IT tells everyone who sees him and knows what he is doing as saying either YOU and the congregational leadership do not care or that God does not care.  NOT TRUE.

 

Now if he repents and moves out, that is a different story.

Comment by Lorraine Doswell on May 28, 2012 at 5:55pm

I am always torn when I hear about dilemmas such as this.  I agree that this guy is living contrary to God's word, and unfortunately there are alot of people out there who no longer consider this a sin, like it is the norm now.  Does he himself think that he is committing a sin? I guess Rusty, you summed it up with the word 'known' sin, and I have to question 'How many people are up there ministering with 'unknown' sin? I am sure all us are guilty of that to some degree. I really think that you have made the right decision but find it hard to say as I hate the thought of exclusion from praising our Lord, whether it be in public or in private. 

Comment by Carl on May 28, 2012 at 6:00pm

What Stevo said.

Comment by Joey Colson on May 31, 2012 at 3:03pm

always a tough call.  we are mostly an outreach type of church right now and our focus is on people who are hurting and maybe even have been hurt by the Church.  i've led several people on our worship team who have been involved in things they shouldn't be doing.  we make sure that our congregation knows what we think about the scriptural right and wrong, not using any person as an example, but we leave the conviction to the Spirit.  i've honestly found that, for some, their instrument became their method/avenue of true praise and they've since grown into a deeper relationship with God and repented of the things that were separating them from God.  there have also been instances where people blatantly knew they were sinning and chose to continue and we've asked them not to be in leadership roles, but continued to have them in areas of service and be involved in the church.  for some, we just haven't seen eye to eye in our interpretation of scripture and we've had to leave the situation in God's hands.  in the end, we're all sinners leading sinners and we all have something to learn from each other no matter what point of our spiritual journey we're on. 

much prayer needs to be given to the specific situation as i don't agree that there is a "litmus test" that will work for every situation.  without being real close to the situation, i can't imagine a place where second chances would be recognized and have a lasting effect on people as much as a prison ministry.

Comment by EmJesusLover on June 14, 2012 at 8:59am

Agree with Stevo and David.

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