i'm very new to this website but i feel like theres so many people who know so much about this stuff on here. does anyone know how to get rid of pedal hum from a pedal board??? im a worship leader from inglis florida.

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Comment by Stevo on June 30, 2011 at 1:30am

I would say two things:

 

1) Maybe put this in a normal thread, people don't tend to respond much to these blog things.

 

2) We need to know what's on your board and how it's powered and what it's going into etc.

Comment by Bige Caleb Wade on June 30, 2011 at 2:29am
Alright thanks man! I just bought an SKB P-S8 powered pedal board and im running a Korg Pitchblack tuner, an MXR Compressor, an Ibanez TubeScreamer, and a Danelectro Fishnchips Equalizer. All of my cables and patch cables are Monster...I have one 30ft monster rock, one 21ft monster pro, and patch cables that are monster pro. I have a Fender Hotrod Deluxe that all of these effects are running through. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me about this man.
Comment by Wayne Pau on June 30, 2011 at 6:07am

Are you sure it's the pedal board? If you plug in clean into your amp does the noise go away? Are you using single coils in your guitar?

 

Are you hearing the noise when your pedals are off? Or just when they are engaged? Those are two different problems that can be attacked different ways.

 

If your pedals are noise when engaged, then you may need a gate that will raise noise floor. (ie. Boss NF-2).

 

If your pedals are noise when not engaged, it could be buffers if they are not true by-pass and may be affected by the order of effects. You could also create signal loops or by-pass pedal pedals that will completed remove a pedal out of the signal path when not engaged. (I've used Boss PSM-5 for this before. It's discontinued now, but you can find lots used.)

 

Lastly, long cables can be a source of hum as well. That's over 51 ft of cable. In a high RF environment that could spell trouble with long unbalanced lines. Usually not the problem, but I've played in older church downtown that were flooded with ambient RF noise.

 

Like Stevo said, more info the better. Pic probably worth a thousand words.

Comment by Bige Caleb Wade on July 1, 2011 at 2:34am
Hey man i just uploaded my pedal board pics. Ithinks its my amp and pedal board and even when its on clean it still give really nasty deep sounding hum and buzz. I still somewhat hear it slightly when the pedals are off and yes i am using a tele standard with 2 singe coils.
Comment by Stevo on July 1, 2011 at 2:40am

Hey - good point. If it's hum, I'm looking for another issue. If it's hiss, it's more likely a pedal thing. What kind of noise is it? Actual hum or hiss?

 

You don't have very many pedals, but the TubeScreamer and the Dano are not usually very quiet. And like Wayne said, single coils give hum. Are you playing a guitar with single coils? It could also be in your amp - a tube going bad or loose, a bad cable, etc.

 

As for cables - I guess Monster are usually not noisy. But heck, I'll build you some boutique pedals for 1/3rd the price. Just let me know when those Monsters die and I'll hook you up. (Trust me, they'll die if you have the typical luck.)

 

And why did you buy a 31ft and 21ft cable? Just curious - I wouldn't normally see that much cable used. I max out at 24 ft on stage.  You did get instrument cables, right? (I don't know those models...)

 

Need more info.

Comment by Wayne Pau on July 1, 2011 at 3:51am

Bige,

 

I see the pedal board is powered. Is the amp and the pedalboard in the same wall socket? You could have a potential ground loop.

 

However the easiest way to determine if it's RF front single coils is to stand with your guitar strapped on and start rotating in a circle, like clock or compass. Basically the RF generates fields that are very directional and *should* get louder and softer depending on the direction your facing. I've learned this trick having to play my strat or tele years ago in really nasty RF filled stages. (Note: to track down nasty RF, we use tricks like AM radio on static, in between stations and walk around, constantly listening when the static gets the better or worse. This is one of the 10 tricks of tracking down noise issues from Mix Mag years ago.)

 

Strat & Tele players also know the middle settings cancel noise better. So if only get noise in the neck and bridge, but not in the middle position, might be another clue. This effect is more exaggerated on Strat than Tele.

 

I *really* think you should plug straight into your amp in the clean channel and see if you still hear the hum, so we can trace if it's the amp, the guitar or the pedals (or all 3).

Comment by Wayne Pau on July 1, 2011 at 3:53am
Also, what are you amp & guitar settings? Is it a two-stage system? If so, are running too 'hot' so the noise floor is amplified in the power stage?
Comment by Bige Caleb Wade on July 1, 2011 at 4:18am
It's a hum mostly but there is a little hiss in there too but yea i thought i needed that much cable cuz i was in another band and we ran across stage a lot so thats why i got long ones but im not in that band anymore, just worship now so i dont know, im just going crazy and im fixing to be in college and i want all my gear running smoothly. I use a single coil telecaster.  did you say you build custom pedals or cables? cuz if you do id love to hear more about it man. thanks man
Comment by Stevo on July 1, 2011 at 12:22pm

Where do you have the volume control set on your Strat?

 

I build cables using Canare GS6 cable and Neutrik or G&H connectors. It's hard to get better than that for the money.

 

Where are the pics?

Comment by Bige Caleb Wade on July 2, 2011 at 1:18am
Well i have my volume all the way up with the 3way switch set in the middle to pick up both of the front and back pickups and its on a telecaster. my pics are in the album i just put up yesterday. I have a Fender Hotrod Deluxe and its a 12inch speaker and im not sure what two-stage system means? im running pretty hot too because i thought the hotter the tubes the better the sound.

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