If there is a God I don’t think s/he would be like the gods;

not fickle, petty, egoic nor into writing his autobiography.

 

I don’t think s/he would use the threat of fire to bend peoples will,

nor have all his/her thoughts written in only one book.

 

I don’t think God would have theologians on the payroll just to explain the divine mind, nor predestine everything Just to come across as predictable.

“Sorry God we can’t trust you unless all your T’s are crossed and I’s dotted! “

How much fun can you have with someone who is so dam inflexible that he can’t change his mind?  Not much!

 

When children play they reverse roles so each gets to be in charge as well as follow. I think God would like someone else to lead the next dance, how about you?

 

This Great and Awesome God wouldn’t be a tribal deity nor be for Israel or America! God wouldn’t be hell bent on pulling strings so that his favorite team always wins.

 

If God is God then there would be no rival called the Devil, no dualisms, no either or but both plus more!

 

There would be no danger that hell would receive more souls than heaven, the mind more attention than the heart or abstinence more attention than sensuality but God would see that there is “a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens”

 

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Comment by Paul Kent on April 23, 2011 at 8:58pm

Hey Bosque, I hope you don't mind, but your writing flicked a switch in me, and I (mostly for my own benefit, so apologies) needed to get them out, so here they come. I hope they are a blessing, inasmuch as they are my genuine level of understanding/revelation. Though I'm sure you've heard much of it before.

 

If there is a God I don’t think s/he would be like the gods;

not fickle, petty, egoic nor into writing his autobiography.

 

I agree! Yahweh isn't much like any other Gods I can think of. He's not fickle, He is the same yesterday, today and forever and yet he's apt to change his mind, if that is in the case of forgiving those that fall on his mercy and I am SOOO very thankful!

 

He's not petty, He sees the bigger picture, but he is concerned about me in the smallest petty detail. He know each hair on my head and forgives every petty pathetic sin, not just forgiving, but loving me with every tired footstep.

 

He Is totally egoic, (of or relating to the self) because he (My christian forefathers referred to him as a him and I'm sure they were more enlightened than me, but understand that he probably exists outside Gender) is a person, or rather 3 people, with distinction and clarity and beauty and Human-mind-blowing complexity. He loves himself and is unashamed in showing it, he is jealous. Not jealous in the dirty sense that we use the word jealous, but rather, in the truest, noblest sense of that word. All honour, Glory and Praise is due to him, because he made the earth. It's like a debt, it is owed. And if we do not give it to him, the very rocks will cry out. Creation is screaming his praise. 

 

I don’t think s/he would use the threat of fire to bend peoples will,

nor have all his/her thoughts written in only one book.

The threat of fire is not to bend peoples will (the will that God gave them by the way). The threat of fire is a result of a certain activity (or lack of). It's like a man plummeting to the earth from an aeroplane with a parachute. I can tell you "you're going to hit the floor and experience terrible pain before likely death unless you pull your cord". I'm not trying to bend your will, I'm trying to save you from inevitable Doom.

 

God never intended the bible to be the whole of his thoughts written out for man. If God wanted to explain everything in clear step by step detail (if that's possible) he could have. It would be too easy for us to simply have a manual. Where would be the relationship in that? God didn't make us so that we would be slaves, but rather sons and Daughters. He loves you and wants you to know him and be known by him.

 

I don’t think God would have theologians on the payroll just to explain the divine mind, nor predestine everything Just to come across as predictable.

“Sorry God we can’t trust you unless all your T’s are crossed and I’s dotted! “

How much fun can you have with someone who is so dam inflexible that he can’t change his mind?  Not much!

I must admit I don't totally follow this, but God changed his mind in the case of Ninevah, he bargained with Abraham over Sodom and Gamorrah. What an amazing possibility, the power of prayer to intercede on peoples behalf! God is for Grace at every opportunity, the prayer of a righteous man is powerful!

 

And yet, God has a predestined purpose that will come about, the fall of the Devil and the returning of the king of Kings. "I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against me".

 

This Great and Awesome God wouldn’t be a tribal deity nor be for Israel or America! God wouldn’t be hell bent on pulling strings so that his favorite team always wins.

 

 

God never promised to sort out all the ills in our lives. The bible actually says that following him would bring hardship. 

If God is God then there would be no rival called the Devil, no dualisms, no either or but both plus more!

God is God, and I don't understand why exactly these things came about, why an all powerful God gave an angel free will enough to take a third of heaven with him. Why an Angel ever thought he could take on God, but I do know that somehow it makes sense.

 

Anything I create cannot love me. No computer programme, no matter how clever can actually love me. But my son, who is an independent free willed (somewhat frustratingly) young boy loves me. I cherish every hug he chooses to give me, and every silly wet kiss he bestows on me like a doting idiot. I can't believe the feeling when this amazing bundle of flesh loves me in return. 

 

I suppose, in my limited understanding, that God thinks that's meaningful too. That when something that has a real decision whether to love him or not, that has value and when that is not a decision it has none. And along the way, we get sentience, we become something more, we are given the privilege of life. I imagine further that a God who is so full of love and creativity simply cannot help but create things, intricate, beautiful, complex things that he wants to have fellowship with. It's mind blowing.

 

There would be no danger that hell would receive more souls than heaven, the mind more attention than the heart or abstinence more attention than sensuality but God would see that there is “a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens”

 

My heart aches when I read these words because they are exactly what I would have written not too long ago. I cannot explain to you what exactly has happened in my life, except it has been a bloody, torturous road to real freedom in christ, a release from the bondage of sin in my life and a restoration of my family where there should be none.

 

What has been birthed in me is a desire not to see the heady emotionalism of christianity in the west, but to see more of the real, life changing relationship with Jesus Christ. What I've found is an amazing faith that can be surprising, scary and challenging. It is not changed by my moods, but I have planted my feet on a rock.

 

God is who he says he is.

Comment by Paul Kent on April 23, 2011 at 9:07pm
a whole chunk of my reply went missing.. about Gods favourite team, thats why the tiny response doesn't make much sense.. cant remember it now... was writing from the heart.
Comment by Bosque on April 23, 2011 at 10:25pm
so , , ,  God wouldn't be the way many of his followers portray Him?
Comment by Al Hilgendorf on April 24, 2011 at 2:15am

I think you're right, Bosque. Many of God's followers don't portray Him very accurately. I would include myself in this. We all "see through a glass darkly", as Paul said. Some try to portray God out of self serving motives. Others are sincere but do not have a deep enough relationship to really know God well enough. In reality, the only way we can know God is if he reveals himself to us.

 

But there's good news!

 

Jesus said "If you have seen me, you have seen the father" and "The father and I are one." Jesus is the revelation of God and if we know Jesus, we know God. God is very anxious to reveal himself to us in a way that we can handle. We can look to Jesus to accurately portray what God is like.

 

But there's more good news!

 

Not only does Jesus reveal the Father to me, he also became the way for me to leave the rebellion and come back to a relationship with the Father. Even though I'm prideful, ignorant, selfish, predjudiced, rebellious, and a lot of other things, God loved me so much that he became my sacrifice for all these things. How can that be? I don't know, but He says if I accept it and believe it, it is done. That's it. No religion, no works, no charisma, no polish.

 

I can't portray God for you, Bosque. Nobody can. All we can do is point you to Jesus.

Comment by Bosque on April 24, 2011 at 2:33am
Thanks Al for your response, I know Jesus, I have for many years, I also have known many who say they follow him but turn people away by their petty attitudes!
Comment by Al Hilgendorf on April 24, 2011 at 9:00pm
Yeah, I do too. But I also know some very humble, Christlike people who I wouldn't hesitate to point to as examples. There's a whole spectrum, isn't there.
Comment by Bosque on April 24, 2011 at 9:37pm
It's not until people break out of their exclusive worldview that they begin to shine as lights capable of reflecting the True Light.
Comment by Bosque on April 25, 2011 at 2:18pm
Many choose to follow an exclusive tribal false god rather than the inclusive God of Creation. Protestantism is the most divisive religion on the face of the earth, I wonder what god they follow?
Comment by Bosque on April 25, 2011 at 9:00pm

instead of defending something that is broken why not work to fix it or maybe you don't think there is anything wrong with having 20,000 plus denominations, churches, cults ... etc.

 

The beginning of the fix is recognizing that there's a problem but I guess some would rather go the way of the ostrich.

Comment by Bosque on April 26, 2011 at 2:00am
you are a good example of the type of bitter attitude that turns non Christians away and causes separations in the church.  Your over rationality is bordering on the absurd!

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