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Female Worship Leaders not Allowed

Started this discussion. Last reply by Andrew Gordon Nov 24, 2012. 92 Replies

I am an experienced worship leader and choir director. My husband relocated to a new state and joined a church that does not allow female worship "leaders". So, I sing background vocals and…Continue

Do you make room for another's "Gifting"?

Started this discussion. Last reply by Junjie Nov 11, 2012. 63 Replies

How do you handle a situation when you have a talented singer/worshiper join your team who is more gifted in talent and is spiritually more mature than your "staff" co-leader? How do you make room…Continue

 

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Andrew Gordon replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"I am so sorry to hear that this is your situation. I am saddened that many churches still take this stand on women in leadership. It is a travesty. I pray and hope that some kind of resolution or answer to your problem will take place. Continue to…"
Nov 24, 2012
Toni replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"I was really answering Wulf, because we're both involved in a stream that is trying to positively push women toward governmental roles."
Nov 15, 2012
Greg Moore replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"The discussion might be:  is there such a thing as an isolated fact?  (In God's view, there is not - Psalm 139)  In someone else's view?"
Nov 15, 2012
David D Waggoner replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"A "block" in Hebrew logic is not exactly the same as a 'frame of reference' although it is similar.  Frame of reference still is looking at the whole but from a particular viewpoint.  A block has that unique viewpoint…"
Nov 15, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"I almost discounted this idea, but there is something to it. I'm not sure the ultimate solution to the free will antinomy is "different frames of reference", but it seems to isolate facts and help realize that there is more in this…"
Nov 15, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"That being said, there is no reason a woman can't lead worship in my mind. But even if someone thought so, a reading of the passage about head coverings should help as it gives a provision for women who do have a public ministry and wish to…"
Nov 15, 2012
David D Waggoner replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Actually it is usually not "paradoxes" as we know it but the use of block logic. The rabbis of old (bc) saw how God had things written in the books of Moses and the Prophets and that it dealt in "blocks" or we might call them…"
Nov 15, 2012
David D Waggoner replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"I agree with you on this.  I take those passages to mean that we are all one before the Lord and have equal access to salvation and that there is even footing before HIS throne.  It does NOT mean that the members of each pairing does not…"
Nov 15, 2012
Toni replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Wulf - I'd say that the neither male nor female also needs to be seen in the context of neither Jew nor gentile, slave or free. Those very clearly exist here and now, and in fact God seems to have special plans still involving the Jews. That…"
Nov 15, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Ah, that leaves me with so much relief. I can now hire that Elder candidate who drinks excessively and likes to fight in public. And I'll also start looking for a choir director who is already committing adultery so we won't have to deal…"
Nov 15, 2012
Greg Moore replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Ah, Stevo.  You never speak with forked tongue.  And I think that a good deal of our difficulty in understanding the dictates of Paul lies in our eagerness to turn his phrase "...profitable, for teaching, reproof, correction, and…"
Nov 14, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Yea, but it's hard to come up with a two headed Paul. "
Nov 13, 2012
Greg Moore replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Sometimes it seems you can hardly say two sentences without "contradicting" some Scripture, or at least another's understanding of the Scripture.  Maybe it's transferring from an evangelical/Pentecostal church to a mainline…"
Nov 13, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"About women not leading men. About men being elders. One can argue many things from there, but clearly there is something going on in scripture about divinely approved roles and positions for women vs. men. To stay on point, I don't have any…"
Nov 13, 2012
Wulf Forrester-Barker replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"Which bit? The passage in Galatians about there being no male or female in Christ, or the bit in Timothy about the context of the Ephesian church or the implied teaching from his commendation of Priscilla as a gifted fellow minister? There are some…"
Nov 13, 2012
Stevo replied to Lyssa Berner's discussion 'Female Worship Leaders not Allowed'
"So you don't think Paul's delineation between men and women is valid?"
Nov 13, 2012

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At 7:39pm on May 28, 2011, Lorraine Doswell said…

Hi Lisa,

 

A very warm welcome to Worship The Rock. Love what you have written on the discussions - so spiritual! What a gift you have there :)

 

Many Blessings.

 

Lorraine

 
 
 

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