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Permalink Reply by Brian Cooney on January 24, 2009 at 2:13pm

Amen Luis. My wife and I have been through a similar situation. I can tell you the year, the month, the day. It was like Joseph being thrown into the well. That's when it all started. And it has all changed from that one moment on. It was January of 2000. Since then i have been accused, misunderstood, lost my home, let go from staff after 12 years of service, abandoned, vehemently opposed, gone bankrupt, and relocated.

This is what I believe. And several other prophetic people are saying the same things. Some renown:

1.) God has been preparing the Josephs to arise upon the scene. They have been tried and tested in the fire... Refined and broken. They will cross over first. They will arise to leadership positions in the Body in the days to come. They will be previously unknown on the scene. They have been hidden and now will be revealed.

2.) God is bringing trials to the earth. The Josephs will have been prepared in advance and will be there to bring leadership and comfort, ministry and hope.

3.) The first group to be brought back (2nd group to cross over) will be the prodigals, the backslidden, those who have abandoned church. The new will not resemble the old. The Josephs will be used in tremendous ways to reach this group of God's people.

4.) Tremendous fire will come upon the remaining group of God's people in order to refine them and save them - restore them to their first love. The Josephs will be there to help lead these believers through the flames. At first, many will not receive the new...what God is doing through the Josephs. It will look different. Some of the established church will resist it.. But as the trials come, refinement will come, and many will begin to cross over in this 2nd wave.

5.) This 2nd wave of people will cover the earth and be used by the Lord to reach the lost in an unprecedented measure as the Earth witnesses the greatest harvest of all time.

Disclaimer:
I don't say this is the total WORD OF THE LORD. But it seems several are saying similar things, that it may hold some accuracy, at least in part. Just something to chew on....

Permalink Reply by Luis Cascalheira on January 24, 2009 at 6:04pm

How are you my brother,i thank you for your your love and friendship towards me, i pray that the LORD will bless you and your family and tell your wife and your children from us ,that they are SPECIAL, and HE will keep you,you are right and the word that you have given is the day that we are in ,i will share a prophecy the LORD gave me in 2005 IN REGARDS to many things ,as i was awakened at 4 am on this particular day,and i tell you HIS PRESENCE was real, i want HIS PRESENCE BRIAN NOTHING LESS,I love you brother. BLESS YOU LUIS

Permalink Reply by Brian Cooney on January 24, 2009 at 6:11pm

awesome... can't wait to hear what the Lord showed you!

Permalink Reply by Michael Blue on January 24, 2009 at 7:00pm

Brain, THANK YOU!
I have felt this way for YEARS and thought that this was the word concerning ME as well!
I have not yet heard this spoken by anyone else, you're the first, so I THANK YOU for sharing it!!

You have NO idea how relevant and timely and uplifting that was!
Bless you!

~M

Permalink Reply by Brian Cooney on January 24, 2009 at 9:45pm

awesome michael... yeah I have been tracking this vein now for about a year... know several people really articulating it... also hear some similar stuff from Rick joyner and folks like that...

Bri

Permalink Reply by Elizabeth ; Baruch Hashem Adonia on January 24, 2009 at 6:58pm

Hi Luis,
The last few years have had some simalure situations. had to close my business which than caused a ripple effect in of course paying the bills. then forcloser on my home. being streched is bringing my flesh to cry out for more spirit to be the driver of this juorney. on top of that prayed for more wisdom and then with my eyes open to the fact I now went into bankrupcy OOCH> this was the most pain in awhile that I had to endure
crushed, alone, and glad that thruough it my Jesus held my hand gave me the scripture Dan 3:20-25 He said I will take you through this will you believe me ? I could share about the church how they treated one of there fellow christians ,but you and many others have made it known this is a sad place for the body of CHrist
to stay for sush a long time.a small remnent will see our Jesus. I've been walking this road alone for awhile and will continue. God brings forth in my life true followers of HIm, so He can be lifted up and truely Glorifyed. I'm glad for all of you here on WTR Thanks so very much brothers & sisters I'm grateful even in my
tears. We're going to be white as snow when Jesus comes to take us home !!! AlaluYAH

Permalink Reply by Brian Cooney on January 24, 2009 at 9:47pm

amen... i believe he's got some big plans on the horizon and isn't done with you yet Elizabeth. there are some powerful days , fruitful days for god's people ahead!

Permalink Reply by BRENDA HATRIDGE on February 1, 2009 at 7:13pm

BROTHER LUIS , YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD, WE NEED TO ANCHORED IN THESE LAST DAYS AND WALK IN LOVE , NO MATTER THE COST.

Permalink Reply by Kara Lynn on February 10, 2009 at 10:09pm

I just came upon this thread. As some of you know, everything expressed here is almost the same as what my husband, Joseph, and I have been going through. Church seperation, rejection, loss of job, soon to loose our house, soon to be in bankruptcy. The thing we keep sensing is that God is calling us to something greater. I know that God has called my husband to be a leader of men. A leader that will bring a mulititude of people to Christ. I don't know how, but this is something that God has spoken to me. Brian, what you mentioned in step one...the preparing of the Josephs, and that they have been hidden and now will be revealed. That is what I feel God has called me to pray about for my husband. I am blown away that you have written exactly what I have been praying for. Only God. This last week several things have happened in our local community that could have profound impact on us and the body of Christ. I can't really say much yet, but there are just so many God-incidences! Thank you so much for sharing this word with me!

Permalink Reply by Brian Cooney on February 11, 2009 at 1:11am

Hi Kara... I have a few friends that are really into this. One guy was saying this stuff years ago and was very hidden. now a lot of folks are coming out and confirming all the things that he has said. It's pretty wild. God is definitely taking us somewhere. Re-molding and shaping the vessels for His use. I don't think we realized how un-usable (for lack of a better term) we were in relation to what he wants to do through us in the days to come. I am told that we need to embrace what He is doing now because if we don't...we will not be able to stand under what is to come. I don't say this to bring fear...but just that I DONT LIKE ALL THIS ONE BIT.. haha.. but I need to do my best to persevere and embrace and trust. The days ahead are going to be glorious for all of us and for His kingdom and we are being trained and groomed right now. It's all too deep to try and explain the ways... but i'm sure you feel a deep sense of unrest. all i can say is it's like you want to go home but can't. And you can't find your home. You have entered a place where you feel completely helpless and a door was opened and you walked through it...but now you couldn't go back even if you wanted to because you know it can't be like it was... the only way to go is AHEAD. I want to encourage you from the the depths of my being that God is transitioning us -the josephs and there will come a day very soon... not sure if it's weeks, months, or a year or 2... but it's not far off... we are going to be thrust on the scene.. and we need to be prepared through this time because the things that will happen will be so huge and powerful and profound that if we are not ready.... like annanias and saphira... like uzza... it wont be good. We need to be able to handle the things of God in a great time of holiness and power... anyway... this is what I am getting.. My friend could write a book on this... he should.. I talk to him about 3 times a week about this stuff.. lol.. GOD IS GREAT AND IN CONTROL!

Permalink Reply by Michael Cornett on March 3, 2009 at 4:16pm

God allows us to be thrown into the furnace for our own good. At the moment it is happening we are horrified, terrified, crushed, disillusioned, rejected, disgraced, panicked, angry, disappointed and so many other emotions. 9 years later we look back and see why it happened, gain some perspective and suddenly we find ourselves thankful, improved, humbled, broken, emboldened, fearless, purified, overflowing with the love of God, his mercy, grace, forgiveness, patience, peace, joy and purpose.

Nobody would willingly choose to go thru that experience, but God knows that it's necessary and therefore he allows it to happen. Just to show you how different my life is now; sunday I was on my way to church and was in the middle to the woods about 30 miles from home and 10 miles from the town I was headed for and my car breaks down and just quits on me. I coasted over to the side of the road and 1 minute later the first car to come by pulls over and asks if he can help me. It turns out he's a mechanic and he looks at my engine to see if it's something obvious that can be easily fixed, but it's my timing belt so we're dead in the woods. 2 minutes later another car pulls up and it's my friend who plays keyboards with me, and instead of his tiny sports car that he usually drives he's in his SUV so we're able to load all my equipment into the back of his vehicle and 5 minutes later we're on the road again. I'm not even late for the service !

I remember days when I would have been trying to flag down some help and people would have kept on going right by me, and I would have been stuck for an hour or two dealing with a situation like that. God is really in the details of our lives if we'll let him get close to us by drawing closer to him ourselves.

Permalink Reply by Michael Blue on March 3, 2009 at 6:11pm

"God allows us to be thrown into the furnace for our own good"

Be careful attributing the wrongs of this life to God. He does promise that;

1 Corinthians 10:13

No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it."

But, we also need to remember...

Matt 7:9-11

"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!"

Know this; the troubles we face in this life are NOT from God. They are part of the sinful nature brought into the world via the Fall. God does NOT give people cancer or take their jobs to "teach them a lesson", or to punish them. Yes, God is in control, and yes, nothing happens in this world that is outside the will of God, but NOWHERE does it say that God sends us trouble for our ultimate good...What it does say is this...

Romans 8:28

"And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose."

So, when trouble comes to us, from our own mistakes, or from the sins of others, these troubles are not from God, but He ensures we will not be overcome, and that He will work ALL THINGS to our good.

~M