Quick question:

I've been playing on this kit that has a weird kick pedal. When I step on it I get two hits instead of a single, solid 'thud'. And the double thud is messing up the timing and the sound mix. What adjustments should I make to get the single thud?

I play the kick heel-up. When I go heel-down I get single hits, but there's less power. And I'm not really used to heel-down.

Please help this wannabe drummer here! :)

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Well... I'm not too sure what i share will bee effectie...
Dude! Time to get a new pedal~! lol...
I believe you are not use to thie pedal you have, you may need to get a new pedal, and there r a lot of choices you can get from various brand (Tama, Pearl, DW, etc.)
this is some of my research on the pedal: Tama seem to be more heavy and stable giving a good control on your kick. Peral is lighter and when doing some double or triplets are easier. I have no oppurtunity to try DW yet.... COZ IS EXPENSIVE!!!! ARGHHHH!!!!! And i heard is a drummer dream to get one one day.... man... lol...
you may also try to get this thing to your beater, it is from Pearl and the thing call "beater weigh". it adds weights to your beater and become heavy to the kick, and i think that will solve your problem in giving double stroke :)
New pedal? Ah... the spirit is willing but the budget is weak... :)

It's actually a drumset at a place that has kindly allowed me to use their premises to record some you-tube vids. The double kicks aren't that much a problem, since my vid will actually be on incompetent drummers and what they are like. So I think I am quite qualified to talk about that (and demo it, of course!)
Agreed. New pedal is a must whenever you aren't able to play on your old one or you just plain don't like it.
time to change brand man~!
hehe...
i tried Tama and Pearl and both work well for me and is within my budget, i dun think dey r too expensive compare to the ultimate dream of the drummer brand- DW.... sniff....
well, there something call parts and it won't cost much compare to buy the whole new pedal. what i do is that i check my spring tension, and chain or belt (for my Pearl 1001 Eliminator) and tune for different tension that whether i want to go it light or go it heavy. next, the beater and its weight. by the time you change all these, i think is in lower or within USD100 you can make your pedal like new :) not like buying a new one may cost you more than spare parts~
keep trying, just like you wont wear Nike all the time you sometime just wanna try Adidas~! ;)
Blessings
Well, before I go that far, should I look at the spring tension then? To get a single hit could I just up the tension a little bit? :)
depend to ur pedal. Spring can set tension, it give fast response for the beater back to it place, but if the tension of the srping too soft, it will bouncing front and back multiple times. try to get Tama heavy srping and give it a try :) the good reason to spend for a good pedal is that it can do more than what a budget ones can't do: change tension of the spring with also angle adjusment, belt or chain, hard tension, med tension, or soft tension by adjusting the heel of the pedal(my peda does that, and really, it makes me feel i got 3 pedals to choose... lol...) and the pad of the step change change to match your "kicking style" (i use my front feet to step so i change the rubber side to front, some use middle of the feet or back so they set to the back)

Man... I should get commission from Pearl... lol....
I'm using Pearl P-1001 eliminator and it does all of that for me and i'm very happy i invest ths money to this pedal. :) if spring rust, beater spoil, spare parts are just there in the music shop. other then that maintenance not very frequent, just sometime add some oil to some of the plae to keep it healthy and no rust and smooth. :)
bro... few points. Even with the cheapest and lousiest pedals on the planet.. you shouldn't get 2 beats.

1. Spring tension... it's too tight.
2. The batter head (where the pedal is hitting) is tuned too tight.
3. Bass drum angle. Make sure the front part of the bass drum (where the resonant head is), is slightly lifted to an angle. Note: slightly. This sort of make the batter head 'nearer' to the beater... less 'stress' on the foot to execute the beat. But this point really have the most minimal affect as to why you're getting double beats. Point 1 and 2 are most important.

The 3 points above are the first things to look at. If you get all of these right and you still don't get a clean hit, the next thing to note is the resonant head. You might want to cut a hole on the head. This releases some tension off the bass drum when it's hit thus eliminating some amount of bounce you get off the beater. Plus, you can out a mic in it. And most of the time, the sound of the bass drum improves because of the hole. There are brands that ship the heads with a hole in it. Regular brands like Remo, Aquariand and Evans have them.

For a more compact sounding bass drum, add in some muffling to the drum with a blanket or a small soft pillow.

Hope this helps.
Ok, got it. I'll look into that! :)
It'll be in your spring tension.. A new pedal would be awesome i know but i understand that they cost heaps!!! try plaing around with your spring tension and maybe even the tuning of the kick drum.

Junjie,

Loosen the set screw that is at the bottom of the tension spring [right side of pedal if looking at it from throne] so it will decrease the "spring" feeling on your pedals footboard. Start there, most likely the person that played it before you had it set for there feel.

 

Fredo

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