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New Songs on a Sunday Morning?

 

I have a dilemma.  My Pastor forbids the worship team to sing any new songs on a Sunday morning (this is when most people come to church so I think we could learn the new song together).  When we teach new songs in the evening not many people come back (?) so only a handful know the new songs.  Help!!!!

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Gie

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Permalink Reply by Edward Brown on April 21, 2010 at 1:33am
Don't let it rob you of worshiping Jesus yourself. Now you're probably thinking about it the whole worship service " is this song too new?' " Should i play something else?" " What does he think about this one?" Getting wrapped up in the anxiousness of it. Whatever you do, do it unto the Lord.. New or not, worship is a choice and just as much as we tend to think that "if they don't know the song they can still worship if they want to." We too have an obligation to honor those whom God put over us. Therefore teaching us to worship in spite of how too familiar the song is to us. Our mission is to Hold the Door open for the people to enter in. New or old or even silence and prayer. Glorify Jesus first and only.

As for your pastor, Pray, Pray, Pray. Cover that man in prayer. Pray for blessings, for love, that he'd follow Gods word, that he'd hear from God on all these tidious things. He has a lot to carry as a pastor. He needs those who SERVE with him to pray for him. And as you pray watch God change his heart and yours to see Jesus blessed in your lives and congregation. Keep the main thing the main thing. BLESSING GOD. :)

Be blessed!
Permalink Reply by Gie Blanky on May 8, 2010 at 12:28pm
Thank you Edward, ALL points taken!

Gie
Permalink Reply by JP on November 21, 2011 at 5:14pm

Amen brother!! Pray to God that He will bestow heaps of blessings on the pastor. Pray for the worship service. Pray that God will use you to show Jesus to his people.

Permalink Reply by Gie Blanky on May 8, 2010 at 12:27pm
Yeah, it sounds weird! I agree.... The majority of the congregation of my church are 50 years and over (I cast no aspersions on the older folk - I love them) but it just takes them longer to learn a song especially if it's wordy!
Permalink Reply by David D Waggoner on May 10, 2012 at 4:11pm

Actually, many songs (and especially the hymns) are really too wordy to be good for worship. I have to watch myself as I write to not make the song too wordy or too complex on melody or rhythm.  (I would LOVE to have a worship song in 5/8 or 7/8)  When any of that starts pulling peoples'attention away from God and onto the music, you have just lost the round as a worship leader.

Permalink Reply by Robert MacFarland on January 1, 2012 at 10:33pm

I think you should give your 'pastor' a bible to read.  He is acting outside of scripture. What your pastor forbids...the Lord and Holy scripture command.  Will you honor God or man?  Somebody needs to talk to this man...if he will not repent, he does not need to lead a church.  My own Pastor would be mortified at such behaviour.

 O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory. Psalm 98:1

I will sing a new song to You, O God; On a harp of ten strings I will sing praises to You Psalm 144:9

And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders.....Revelation 14:3
 
1.Psalm 33:3
Sing to Him a new song; Play skillfully with a shout of joy.
Psalm 33:2-4 (in Context) Psalm 33 (Whole Chapter)
2.Psalm 40:3
He has put a new song in my mouth— Praise to our God; Many will see it and fear, And will trust in the LORD.
Psalm 40:2-4 (in Context) Psalm 40 (Whole Chapter)
3.Psalm 96:1
[ A Song of Praise to God Coming in Judgment ] Oh, sing to the LORD a new song! Sing to the LORD, all the earth.
Psalm 96:1-3 (in Context) Psalm 96 (Whole Chapter)
4.Psalm 98:1
[ A Psalm. ] Oh, sing to the LORD a new song! For He has done marvelous things; His right hand and His holy arm have gained Him the victory.
Psalm 98:1-3 (in Context) Psalm 98 (Whole Chapter)
5.Psalm 144:9
I will sing a new song to You, O God; On a harp of ten strings I will sing praises to You,
Psalm 144:8-10 (in Context) Psalm 144 (Whole Chapter)
6.Psalm 149:1
[ Praise to God for His Salvation and Judgment ] Praise the LORD! Sing to the LORD a new song, And His praise in the assembly of saints.
Psalm 149:1-3 (in Context) Psalm 149 (Whole Chapter)
7.Isaiah 42:10
[ Praise to the LORD ] Sing to the LORD a new song, And His praise from the ends of the earth, You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, You coastlands and you inhabitants of them!
Isaiah 42:9-11 (in Context) Isaiah 42 (Whole Chapter)
8.Revelation 5:9
And they sang a new song, saying: “ You are worthy to take the scroll, And to open its seals; For You were slain, And have redeemed us to God by Your blood Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
Revelation 5:8-10 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter)
9.Revelation 14:3
They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the hundred and forty-four thousand who were redeemed from the earth.
Revelation 14:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 14 (Whole Chapter)

Permalink Reply by Robert MacFarland on January 1, 2012 at 10:39pm

P.S.  I would not attend your church.

Permalink Reply by Bill Guynn on April 22, 2010 at 3:28am
Wow, I have been reading for several months now on how new songs should be introduced into a congregation. Apparently in our church we break ALL the rules. Since I joined the praise band in november of 2009 we have done approximately 119 different songs in that time span. Some songs have been repeated for several weeks if they were the keynote song on the theme of the sermons like the Danny Goeke song " my best days are ahead of me" which we played for four out of five weeks. But the general rule of thumb is we are expected to learn 5 new songs most weeks and sometimes six if our Praise leader is still hedging on which ones to use. we practice on Wednesday for three hours and then a run through before church and then we go live for two services. Sometimes we have a crowd 40 minutes before first service so they can hear our run through. We are very blessed on the competence and dedication of the band and get many compliments from the congregation that has grown from 600 in '06 to slightly over 900 recently. On the church website our music is described as on the edge. we seem to put one hymm type song (sometimes done with a twist) and one secular song (something not normally deemed a church song that fits in with the theme of the sermon)(like the beatles "Help" before christmas and the beatles "Here Comes the Sun" before Easter, that we generally lead with. I can imagine the look on some of your faces while you are reading this.
Respectfully
A Bass player
Permalink Reply by Wayne Pau on April 22, 2010 at 5:37am
Bill,

How did you approach the copyright issue with secular songs? Especially those not covered by CCLI? Do you not post the lyics?

We've contemplated this at our church, but have had concerns about copyright infringement, so we've stuck to only CCLI listed songs. I think this is a great idea when the service is targeted at new-comers.
Permalink Reply by Bill Guynn on April 22, 2010 at 9:03pm
as I said I am just the bass player, but I know there is a complete record for all songs we play and we do pay our fees, other than that I am not really involved in that part.
Permalink Reply by Greg Moore on April 24, 2010 at 6:36am
I once transcribed and taught the Beatles' "Help" to our Christian school choir; it fit the purpose of a lesson perfectly, plus it gave them some lessons on harmony. It also, of course, made me a pirate (all together now, "Yo ho ho and a bottle of Martinelli's"). Since I began evangelical ministry in the 70's, I've found myself under pressure (from pastors as well as parishoners) to do piracy to become Relevant. It's curious - without those overheads, every single one of them illegal, passed from church to church, we would never have seen the spectacular rise of excellent worship music we have today (of course, we've also put some publishing companies out of business or forced them to retool). I've noticed today some major writers posting their chords and lyrics, broadcasting their seed even before the song is fully released at CCLI. That shows some heart. // I would watch it on secular songs. I've written companies asking for permission just to teach a song to a piano student, and I've never even gotten a reply. Maybe they are waiting for the same moment to descend on the churches with their attack dogs and lawyers and usher in the Tribulation. In the meantime... I'd agree about sticking with CCLI-listed songs.
Permalink Reply by Gie Blanky on May 8, 2010 at 12:32pm
Wow!

Sounds radical! My church would have a fit!!!

Blessings,
Gie

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