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New Songs on a Sunday Morning?
I have a dilemma. My Pastor forbids the worship team to sing any new songs on a Sunday morning (this is when most people come to church so I think we could learn the new song together). When we teach new songs in the evening not many people come back (?) so only a handful know the new songs. Help!!!!
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Gie
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Permalink Reply by Cory Zipperle on -
Very interesting. Be sure to post back here to let us how it goes.
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Permalink Reply by Clint Winebrenner on -
Right or not, you should honor your pastor, inherited or not.
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Permalink Reply by Alex Edwards on -
One thing is that you kind of have to listen to your pastor. He is your elder and you have to respect that. He may have a reason for the "no new songs rule." Maybe he thinks the church really needs to focus in worship and older songs would be the way to do that.
But with all that, you still should ask why so you are on board. It could be just a personal preference for him in which case he is being very selfish and denying his congregation music that really allows them to worship God. I'm totally for older music and hymns which you can really worship to but new music does that too and sometimes better because its a style of music we enjoy more.
The only thing you can do while you're in this "new music ban" is play old songs in a more contemporary way. Many hymns have contemporary versions and hey, even you can change an old song into something new. That may be a way to slip something a little different in.
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Permalink Reply by Cory Zipperle on
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There is a lot of truth to this. Selfishness in our worship offering is systemic in the Church mostly because Church leaders are selfish in their worship offerings to God.
The only thing you can do while you're in this "new music ban" is play old songs in a more contemporary way.
This might not be acceptable. The church I just left didn't consider a hymn a hymn unless it was done traditionally.
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Permalink Reply by Ivy on -
I haven't read all of the replies, so I apologize if I'm repeating anything.
We just moved to modern worship nine months ago, so there have been a lot of new songs. Here's what we've worked out that works for us.
We usually play the song, amongst others before church (usually it plays as the countdown music or just before it) we do this at least two weeks before but if you already have the songs, then play the covers of them. Every now and then, we'll have someone sing the song as a special during the offering (I did see this suggestion already on here) the week before. Then when we introduce it, we do it as the second in the set and I tell them "we're going to learn a new song this morning" and tell a little story about the song and why we chose to include it in worship. Then we sing it. They usually catch on, but either way they know that it's new and just enjoy it if they aren't comfortable singing it yet.
We'll usually do that song the next week too, maybe a third, and then take a week off from it.
Good luck! You're doing a great job!
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Permalink Reply by Gie Blanky on -
Thanks Ivy
It's a long time since I've been on here so I'm trying to catch up with all the comments. I like the idea of playing the song if it's a cover. That's good - will try that one and see.
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Permalink Reply by Nigel Wiggins on -
Teach the new song in the evening as your pastor suggests. Do the song the 6 weeks later in the morning - by which time it is no longer a new song.
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Permalink Reply by Edward Brown on -
I agree here! That way you are playing by the rules the pastor has set. And you get to teach the new songs to the congregation at the same time. Doing it honorably will be honored by God. And just keep praying for the congregation that they would desire to worship God and bless Him above all else. As they do, the worship will be sweet no matter what song is playing. The goal is always worshiping God.
Maybe also be praying with your pastor over the congregation that they would worship in spirit and truth no matter what. Praying with ones pastor is a great way to share vision and understand where the other is coming from. When i was really frustrated with the leadership at our church i found that praying for them and with them was a very helpful instrument of restoration and growth. I guess the saying is true for church leadership as well " the family who prays together stays together" :)
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Permalink Reply by Benjamin Luce on -
"The Pastor is the Ultimate Athority in the church.." - This scares me. There needs to be accountablity!
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Permalink Reply by Gie Blanky on
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Hi Benjamin,
What is it exactly that's scaring you? I am not disobedient to my Pastor. I understand authority and where it lies as well as the next person. Just because you are under authority does not mean that you always agree (Paul and Barnabas). I certainly do not disagree with my Pastor in the wrong way; I was just looking for advice on this issue. Be glad to hear from you.
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Permalink Reply by Benjamin Luce on
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Notice the quotation marks, man. Someone else said this, not me. The pastor IS NOT the ultimate authority!!
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Permalink Reply by David D Waggoner on -
" 'The Pastor is the Ultimate Authority in the church...' - this scares me. There needs to be accountability."
Actually I would put it as the pastor is the final human authority in the local congregation. He has the authority to set the tone and direction of the congreation, along with rest of the elder board. (biblically the pastor IS an elder) But I would agree that he needs to be accountable to someone over him, beit a denominational board or episcopal type structure of bishops.
And there needs to be a clear and well understood (by the congregants) path of appeal if you think the pastor or elders are in the wrong.
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