Very interesting. As a group leader in our church I would never force or expect anyone to play outside their comfort zone unless they wanted to. I might suggest, 'Sam, next time just bring the violin', or, 'Will, perhaps you play electric next week'.
Of course, this does mean we never step very far into 'new territory', however, what we have works. And I have often suggested that I should try something different (eg lead on electric rather than accoustic) but my wife usually says 'don't muck it up, keep it simple!'
Good luck! And I bet your group sounds fanastic, even if you don't think so!
I am glad that Bill made me stick with the Rhodes. I'd like to think that he trusted me to find the solution despite my own doubts. However, he has only been around a few months. I don't think he knows me that thoroughly... as evidenced: the people who do know me that well had also concluded that I needed to do piano.
Despite the frustrations, it was a fun weekend - I have no regrets.
That's awesome you stuck with it. I've had that happen a few times on some challenging arrangements, but the team was just great. They stuck it through, when I know it was just a little beyond them.
As worship leader, what is frustrating is that as much as the players find it tough playing the arrangements, it takes equally or longer for the worship to prep. So sometimes it's really discouraging when a team member does a mutiny and doesn't play his/her part. That really disrupts the song and set, since it no longer goes with the worship leader's total, overall vision.
I'm glad that it worked out for everyone. =) Way to stick it out.
Hm... I think there is a fine line. Sometimes you do have to be pushed beyond your limits and your comfort zone. I've done this a few times with people on my worship team I have a very good relationship with.
I've had some guys really frustrated at practice, but came back with a vengeance on Sunday morning. I had guys complain, but years later say that it really helped make them a better musician/vocalist.
I've been known to pretty tough on my team. That's my reputation. We practiced more and longer than other teams. However it's a balance. We had the most creative parts & arrangements and "thank God", we still had people who wanted the step up to the challenge. So I guess there was an implicit contract there. (Maybe it's because every so often I'd cook for them too...)
ROCK IT BROTHA!
Bass is one of the most misunderstood instruments. If your church has a bass players and no subs - something went wrong.
practiced with my Rhodes sounds at home
I didn't pick it up in the original post, but was this a true Fender? Or was this just a Rhodes patch? If it's a patch, can you let me know what board you're using and what patch?
Did you have a good leslie speaker setting too? :))
This was a patch, not a true fender. I was on our Yamaha Motiff at church, I think "suitcase organ" or something like that was the name of the particular patch I used there.
I have a Triton Rack at home, there are a number of electric pianos that I have in there, I'm not actually sure which one I used! Ha!
And no, I didn't use the Leslie.
I've had that "out of pocket" experience as well. I play keyboards along side of a piano player, so as you noted, finding where you fit can be a challenge on a Sunday by Sunday basis. When in doubt, I back out and play less until we get to a bigger part of the song where the different tones you get from the high velocity attacks brings more color or breadth to the sound. The piano player can't go there, if you know what I mean, so there is no overlap. I do try to stay in a different register whenever possible and let the piano do the fancy flourishes and embellishments between phrases. As you've noted, playing keyboards is a lot about having a humble attitude and living with the slice of the pie you get with each song.
As for memorizing, I hear you brother. Actually, it will just happen one day.
For "Bill's" sake...let him have the low pocket. Pull your hands closer together, and don't pound the left hand octaves.
Fill in more of a "pad" with the Rhodes. Let the guitar bang the rhythm. Phatten up the chordal structure, add seconds, sixths, leave out the thirds and play "open 5 chords". I play guitar BTW, our keyboard player has a brand new Yamaha..he pretty much hangs with the Rhodes as his bread and butter. We are Drums, Bass, Guitar and Keyboards.