Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Mat 5:16
But when the multitudes saw it, they marvelled, and glorified God, which had given such power unto men. Mat 9:8
And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. Act 19:17 KJV
Can you worship God outside music and song?
Now I'm dense! I even tried AcronymGeek, and cannot find "SMYHLOL"!
It may not be an official one, but "shaking my head, laughing out loud". Did I just make up a new acronym? I get all the luck - can't make money on acronyms.
LSHBCOMN (laughed so hard bubbles came out my nose)
If we take the implied reference to 'the anointed cherub that covered' as literal then I guess we should do the same for those psalms about King David that clearly implies the Christ.
I don't think the instruments were physical in that sense - more an idea for us to understand the calling and job that he had - i.e. worship.
Greg, you conning me? haha. I enjoyed that quip.
Wilhelm, music and doin' church has become big business. Unfortunately, we are caught up with the current swell of doin' programs and doin' the most current songs, we have forgotten where God is in all this. Just because the music sounds good and the programs look good, doesn't mean they are good. You will always get those who will say, why not? And I am not knocking them at all. But, my question is WHY do it?
If we are to worship God in all ways including music, why does it always have to be the new way? We now have the emergent church coming through in the last 12 or so years and they do it differently. But why do we have to change to always suit the world?
Example I saw on youtube where four people with their laptops ( imacs) were bent over "doin' church" blogging together. But they were all bent over worhiping technology not God.
This to me is not worship, but it maybe to some.
Allan, you have a hearty AMEN from me. I commented to someone recently that we have much of the world system in the church. We are caught up with their marketing trends, advertising ideals, and five steps to whatever not to mention all the hype about positive confession. DON'T get me wrong. I'm not against learning and applying knowledge and I'm definitely into the positive Word of God and confessing what God has to say about something, anything for that matter. The problem is that the church thinks that these worldly wisdoms are magic wands that we should use in church. I love new worship songs but at times the Holy Spirit wants us to sing an older hymn or maybe even a old Keith Green song. We listen to the world more than we do the Holy Spirit.
I guess if instruments are the core of worship we better warn our Seventh Day Adventist brothers that their Accapella ain't cutting it with God. (tongue in cheek before someone is offended)
Hate to be a nerd, but it's certain Brethren, Dunkards in particular, that eschew musical instruments on New Testament grounds, as well as the more familiar Church of Christ (there are all sorts of Church of Christ denominations, from the ultra-liberal United Church of Christ, in which I was once an organist, to the Eastern Orthodox Church [one of its names], to the "Church of Christ, Instrumental", and many more). But the one with the little sign, "Church of Christ Meets Here" is a capella-only.
Thinking about this "core of worship" concept - if you have instruments but the people don't sing, then de facto the instruments will become a "core", and if it remains that way long enough, people will forget the day when singing was a primary thing, and the Body will have instruments for its Larynx. Still the Body, either way. An instrument is just a synthesized voice, a drum just a synthesized clap.
FYI: "Church of Christ"...There are the Campbellites who don't have instruments and the United Church of Christ who descended from Congregationalists. The two are not related. The Campbellites came from the old tent revival folks. Here in my town, it's become nearly a cult with very controlling ministers and a Gestapo-like oversight of the members. There's nothing inherent in their theology that causes that, it's just how they are. (And if you consider water baptism a requirement for the gaining of eternal life as they do, I think you're missing the gospel message altogether.)
The United Church of Christ seems to be, as you imply, on the forefront of every potential thing that seeks to tear down the foundation of God's word as our source of authority.
Don't know why I felt it necessary to comment, it just seemed like an interesting subject.
- And to the original comment, I wasn't aware that Seventh Day Adventists were a-capella types.
The Seventh-Day Adventists in our neck of the world have a great choir and many of the finest musicians in town, sponsor two annual dramatic presentations of the Gospel; and their pianist also plays at our Methodist church on Sunday (I once played for a SDA service myself - the only neighbor church I can visit without being on vacation!).
Yep Greg, the SDA here have great choirs too and are diligent in their instrument skills. Accapella is big for them here in Zim and they have amazing groups and choirs that do that style. Great for the congregations that have no electricity or instruments for one reaon or other. I would not say that it is a SDA policy, however, they do great at it.